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Welcome to Week 4. Unfortunately, we did have two writers who had to drop out after Week 3, so, for the rest of you, I've become used to the idea that you're all the heroes, fighting the good fight against a sadistic villain. Not this week. This week, your job is to play the proverbial bad guy and, in your scripts, have your protagonist be the villain. It's just that simple. Good luck. =)
Theme: "Your Hero Is the Villain."
Genre List:
Action/Adventure Comedy Crime Horror Western Mystery Sci-Fi Thriller Fantasy Historical
And how to be positive, negative or indifferent about this theme? Looks like additional variable and not a theme.
Joe (Spqr) did. He has his reasons, which are private. Unless he feels like sharing them, I would leave it at that.
That's true, this is much closer to a variable than a theme. However, it's something that I've just been wanting to see. I didn't say positive, negative, indifferent this time. So, all in all, grading for this round should be easier and more streamlined.
That's true, this is much closer to a variable than a theme. However, it's something that I've just been wanting to see. I didn't say positive, negative, indifferent this time. So, all in all, grading for this round should be easier and more streamlined.
So, how bad is bad enough? Does he have to kill, think of killing, or maybe some unethical behavior will do?
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Interesting. I could do a traditional villain who is simply a villain, or a more modern villain who thinks they are the hero and has reasons for their actions.
I also hear Trump is joining in this week using the elements person, woman, man, camera, T.V. I can't wait to see what he comes up with!
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Interesting. I could do a traditional villain who is simply a villain, or a more modern villain who thinks they are the hero and has reasons for their actions.
The villain is the hero of his/her own story. But I think it'd need to be clear we're talking about something more serious than a difference of opinion on what is right.
There have been many films that either have the villain as the protagonist...and some of who have reson to think they are in the right.
There Will Be Blood My Best Friend's Wedding American Psycho (although technically, Bateman was over worked and hallucinating) Nightcrawler Last Days Of Disco X Men films (Magneto) Avengers Infinity War (Thanos)
Whoever wrote 'Smoke Jumper' is kicking themselves in the ass right about now.
Or Papers!
But I think Legacy fits too. Does it? I wish people told me here if Legacy fits this. Because I like moreof this type of stories, where the villain is not so obvious yet he's a villain.
But I think Legacy fits too. Does it? I wish people told me here if Legacy fits this. Because I like moreof this type of stories, where the villain is not so obvious yet he's a villain
Not all villains are twirling their mustaches, petting their cats and spinning their world domination globes...
First draft is done. At best I will have covered the genre and elements and that's all I can hope for this week. I'll tidy it up tomorrow but all I can say is this is a simple and straightforward story, not the type I like to do but it is all I can come up with.
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I am 100% locked up. That is... blocked. Can't even conceive of the beginning of an idea.
Gonna be a long day today.
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60 Feet Under - Low budget, contained thriller/Feature The Hand of God - Low budget, semi-contained thriller/Feature Wait Till Next Year - Disney-style family sports comedy/Feature
Many shorts available for production: comedy, thriller, drama, light horror
Submitted mine. I'm actually okay with what I've done. The criteria is getting tougher every week and I'm certainly taking that into account when reading. I certainly wouldn't have chosen ever to write what I've written but I think it is good to get me out of my comfort zone.
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I'm still writing mine. I'm away for the weekend to a lodge with the extended family and haven't found much time to concentrate on what I should be doing. On the plus side I have been drinking a lot of wine and whisky
If at first you don't succeed........bribe someone.
Spent the last three hours hammering out some sort of story and a script. Even declined a trip to the pub. But it's in, so I'm happy that I've entered but I know it'll be slaughtered .
If at first you don't succeed........bribe someone.
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The marathon nature of this deal is always the toughest part. That, and the writing. And the reviewing. And the parameters.
Oh, and the competition.
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60 Feet Under - Low budget, contained thriller/Feature The Hand of God - Low budget, semi-contained thriller/Feature Wait Till Next Year - Disney-style family sports comedy/Feature
Many shorts available for production: comedy, thriller, drama, light horror
The Elevator Most Belonging To Alice - Semi Final Bluecat, Runner Up Nashville Inner Journey - Page Awards Finalist - Bluecat semi final Grieving Spell - winner - London Film Awards. Third - Honolulu Ultimate Weapon - Fresh Voices - second place IMDb link... http://www.imdb.com/name/nm7062725/?ref_=tt_ov_wr
Yep, he was a bit. I didn't realise he was a Scot. Anyway, still love The Pogues. Fairytale of New York hits the spot. In the blood and also married to an English Irishman, so there you go.
I think stories about straight-up villains are not what Sean was going for, but we'll see...
Btw, there are a fair amount of scripts last round and this round that didn't FADE OUT. I get the page count restriction makes it difficult... but technically the actors are still there, waiting for the writer to drop the curtain, ala THE PURPLE ROSE OF CAIRO...
To quote SeaN, he said... "have your protagonist be the villain."
I think that allows for straight up villains, anti-heroes, protags that appear to be good and then are revealed not to be, etc etc... I'll only think it's offside if the main character is not in some way the villain or villainous.
I think stories about straight-up villains are not what Sean was going for, but we'll see...
Btw, there are a fair amount of scripts last round and this round that didn't FADE OUT. I get the page count restriction makes it difficult... but technically the actors are still there, waiting for the writer to drop the curtain, ala THE PURPLE ROSE OF CAIRO...
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Yeah I was a guilty party of that last round. I noticed others doing the same, no FADE OUT mostly due to the five page limit, and pushing it as far as it can go. I'm rather loose with it though in the challenge. If it's there it's there and that's good. If it isn't, it isn't and I'm okay with it given time and page limit.
Fade In and Fade Out are implied by the script starting after the Title page and finishing abruptly - imho
Obviously, I was making a joke about them being frozen in time...
In scripts we submit to prospective directors, producers, etc., it's necessary so that the reader doesn't think there are pages missing. In this contest we pretty much know the story ends at page 5.
On the other hand, it's a cheat for space, given that space is so precious with the page limit.
Obviously, I was making a joke about them being frozen in time...
In scripts we submit to prospective directors, producers, etc., it's necessary so that the reader doesn't think there are pages missing. In this contest we pretty much know the story ends at page 5.
On the other hand, it's a cheat for space, given that space is so precious with the page limit.
AJR
Hey, at least no one is using 9-point fonts or setting their paper to legal size.
The best one I ever heard of was a word-count limit, and since the staff were using software word counts, one guy got the idea to put in a page-sized image of about four paragraphs of text.
I actually asked Sean on p 2 of this thread This is quoted from me "I like moreof this type of stories, where the villain is not so obvious yet he's a villain"
Just finished reading them all! With writers dropping out, it makes for a quicker read and review. A couple entries really stand out this week. Interesting the level of spelling/punctuation/grammar errors this week. And the couple with no fade outs (no points off for that, though)!
I can't wait until this round is over so I can tell folks they got the main character (villain who is the hero) mixed up with a supporting one. My entry isn't great, but damn. If I see it again I'd be very, very tempted to reveal myself a few days early.
I can't wait until this round is over so I can tell folks they got the main character (villain who is the hero) mixed up with a supporting one. My entry isn't great, but damn. If I see it again I'd be very, very tempted to reveal myself a few days early.
Just jump up and down and punch a pillow. And then yell, no! You're just wrong!! A lot of us know the feeling, Darren.
Ant, are you saying Sean specifically wants people to out themselves to comment on theme? Or do you mean something else?
Darren could comment on his own script for sure without revealing he's the author. I don't like doing it cause I'm too obvious, but I notice some people are pretty canny.
Ant, are you saying Sean specifically wants people to out themselves to comment on theme? Or do you mean something else?
Darren could comment on his own script for sure without revealing he's the author. I don't like doing it cause I'm too obvious, but I notice some people are pretty canny.
I think that’s the accepted practice. Pre-reveal, it’s screaming into pillows, gnashing of teeth, and complaining to long-suffering loved ones.
No, Libby I've just re-read Darren's post and I mis-read it... thought he was talking about the other scripts mixing protag and villain up! To avoid confusion... I've deleted my original.
Ah, okay. I was a bit puzzled. I wondered if you were provoking dissension in the ranks. Spot on, Frank. Very good.
Darren could comment on his own script for sure without revealing he's the author. I don't like doing it cause I'm too obvious, but I notice some people are pretty canny.
That's always backfired in the past. Not that folks figured out it was me who wrote it, but in order to"throw people off" I'd throw in a few criticisms of my own work which others missed. Then other folks chime in, and in 'agreeing' with me, the reviews take a bigger nose dive
The bit that I've noticed with this one is the theme seems to have confused people... people are looking for anti-heroes or goodies who reveal themselves to be bad later, and that's not what Sean initially said.
To quote Sean "This week, your job is to play the proverbial bad guy and, in your scripts, have your protagonist be the villain. It's just that simple."
So protag* = main character... has to be a villain.
I think the further discussion in the thread has then confused things.
*Protags don't have to be good as far as any definition I can find.
The bit that I've noticed with this one is the theme seems to have confused people... people are looking for anti-heroes or goodies who reveal themselves to be bad later, and that's not what Sean initially said.
To quote Sean "This week, your job is to play the proverbial bad guy and, in your scripts, have your protagonist be the villain. It's just that simple."
So protag* = main character... has to be a villain.
I think the further discussion in the thread has then confused things.
*Protags don't have to be good as far as any definition I can find.
That's how I understood Sean as well - your main character is a bad guy. This is actually simple, I agree with him on the fact that it's simple to understand. Unless i totally misunderstood what he said and "your protag" doesn't mean "your main character"
@Darren, I think you just need to forget about it. I wanted to respond to you on mine last time. No one suggested the thing you said, you totally mixed up things there, cos you studied history and mixed up the names. But I took ahold of myself. Now it's your turn I guess.
The bit that I've noticed with this one is the theme seems to have confused people... people are looking for anti-heroes or goodies who reveal themselves to be bad later, and that's not what Sean initially said.
To quote Sean "This week, your job is to play the proverbial bad guy and, in your scripts, have your protagonist be the villain. It's just that simple."
So protag* = main character... has to be a villain.
I think the further discussion in the thread has then confused things.
*Protags don't have to be good as far as any definition I can find.
Agreed. I've also noticed if the villain has a reason for being the bad guy, some folks seem to think that makes them not a true villain as it is understandable why they are being bad, but that is not correct. Most villains see themselves as the hero and have reasons for their villany.
It's bloody tough coming up with anything with the criteria we have left so I just think we should cut each other some slack.
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The bit that I've noticed with this one is the theme seems to have confused people... people are looking for anti-heroes or goodies who reveal themselves to be bad later, and that's not what Sean initially said.
To quote Sean "This week, your job is to play the proverbial bad guy and, in your scripts, have your protagonist be the villain. It's just that simple."
So protag* = main character... has to be a villain.
I think the further discussion in the thread has then confused things.
*Protags don't have to be good as far as any definition I can find.
It's bloody tough coming up with anything with the criteria we have left so I just think we should cut each other some slack.
It is, and I agree.
Having said that, I've been around these parts awhile now, and though some people are kinder in their reviews than others, overall there's no cutting of the slack in anon challenges. It's dog eat dog just as Blondie intended it to be.
Having said that, I've been around these parts awhile now, and though some people are kinder in their reviews than others, overall there's no cutting of the slack in anon challenges. It's dog eat dog just as Blondie intended it to be.
Having said that, I've been around these parts awhile now, and though some people are kinder in their reviews than others, overall there's no cutting of the slack in anon challenges. It's dog eat dog just as Blondie intended it to be.
Very true. I'm being more lenient with reviews and not disqualifying anyone if they have at least attempted to include the parameters, but my score is still based on how much I enjoyed the story, the characters and if they have put an original spin on it.
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That's me read, commented and voted. Personally I think there was a lot of creativity, imagination and very decent scripts this week. I didn't read one bad story, just different levels of good.
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That's me read, commented and voted. Personally I think there was a lot of creativity, imagination and very decent scripts this week. I didn't read one bad story, just different levels of good.
I agree with you - each was a sound story this time. For me a story is the most important part.
I used to ski patrol with a bunch of Aussies and kiwis 30+ years ago (Gulp! I'm old) and we used to call new and out-of-control skiers Joeys. Too funny.
Kham, I think you're confusing Sean with someone else.
Lololol Yes wishful thinking but somehow I’m sure. I can’t suppress this feeling. I think Sean want to go through a complete character arc just for us.
I’m sure Sean will let us go themeless for the last one
Lol I been themeless the whole tourney, Kham By chance the themes have vaguely fitted my planned scripts. I haven’t scored any on the theme either. Theme can go jump
Lol I been themeless the whole tourney, Kham By chance the themes have vaguely fitted my planned scripts. I haven’t scored any on the theme either. Theme can go jump
You know what - I’m going themeless, too! I thought my script through and I’ll write it tomorrow before the theme is announced. This way I’ll also get to enjoy my weekend.
I'm just wondering how I'm going to fit my remaining requirements around another hangin'!
“This week’s theme is... I’m thinking of a number between one and twenty. You need to use that number in your script. No, I’m not telling you what the number is until ten minutes before the deadline.”
I'm just wondering how I'm going to fit my remaining requirements around another hangin'!
I vaguely recall a hanging in 1877, Johnny, in which the hangman wore a suit of armour, the gallows was decked out like the Titanic, and the condemned guy was in a fish tank.
“This week’s theme is... I’m thinking of a number between one and twenty. You need to use that number in your script. No, I’m not telling you what the number is until ten minutes before the deadline.”
Originally, my rough draft plan for week 2 (way back when I decided I was going to do this year's) was something very close to that. It was to pick a number between 0 and 9. For every number away from my number that you picked, you'd lose .1 points off your score for that week (like Lucky Seven on The Price is Right). Seemed WAY too mean-spirited. And evil. And I bet some people would've quit. So, I chose something a little bit more family-friendly. That makes me almost not a villain, right?
Voted and waiting with bated breath for the final theme. In fact, I'm holding my breath for as long as possible and I keep passing out, it's fun - weeeee!
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Voted and waiting with bated breath for the final theme. In fact, I'm holding my breath for as long as possible and I keep passing out, it's fun - weeeee!
Yeah mate it’s all fun and games until you pass out and weeeee all over the carpet
Voted and waiting with bated breath for the final theme. In fact, I'm holding my breath for as long as possible and I keep passing out, it's fun - weeeee!
It’s going to be themeless. I counted Sean’s haha’s- not nearly enough, he’s practically spoon feeding “themeless” to us
Molly wrote something creative and bold if her entry is both loved and hated. She know she was taking risks there but she was brave to do it. Be like Molly!
I'm liking the fact that the results are not out yet. I say keep them to yourself, but those who wrote a good one obviously want to know where they stand. pfft
I'm liking the fact that the results are not out yet. I say keep them to yourself, but those who wrote a good one obviously want to know where they stand. pfft
I'm certainly not stressing it. I'm definitely a Molly. Lol