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Self Published Movies, Would You? (currently 402 views) |
zi94sm65 |
Posted: January 26th, 2024, 9:59am |
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I've been watching the latest developments with AI and there's talk about the next generation of AI being able to produce high-quality text-to-video ( see about google's Lumiere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DN-krCcwnhQ). Let's assume this happens and it's good. You've written a script you love, you now can create a movie version of your script using these text-to-video tools. Would you do it? Are we going to be entering a new age of self-published movies similar to what happened in the book market? |
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AnthonyCawood |
Posted: January 26th, 2024, 7:43pm |
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LocationUK Posts4327 Posts Per Day 1.13 |
Interesting question, especially when you consider two of the most common complaints of writers.
1) I can't get my script to a filmmaker to make it. 2) If I do manage to get past 1) then the finished film isn't close to my vision.
If we end up with a very good AI that can allow writers to create their own then I'm sure they will (a few people on here already do make their own, just not with AI).
I'll be having a go as soon as a good enough text-to-video AI is publically available. |
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zi94sm65 |
Posted: January 28th, 2024, 5:46am |
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I think a number of scriptwriters would try it; i would. The only problem i see is how would you distribute a self-published movie to make any money? There's no distribution channel like there is now for self-published books, but i suppose if there's money to be made, somebody will build a distribution platform. |
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Scar Tissue Films |
Posted: January 28th, 2024, 5:34pm |
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I think the sweet spot would be AI good enough to generate backgrounds and special effects while you still film the actors.
If we are to assume that AI can get good enough to make perfectly coherent visuals over 120 minutes, and assume the chat bots get good enough to write great scripts..then you're probably not going to have to worry about self distribution because Movies, Digital Art, Songs etc will be all but worthless in monetary terms.
People would basically be able to watch whatever they, as an individual, wanted to watch on demand.
Tell the Ai you want to watch a Star Wars/Star Trek crossover, and you'll be able to. There would be no reason to look out for films, you could just watch whatever you've ever wanted to watch.
There would only be a small amount of money to be made from advertising on Social Media sites, if you formulated a particularly brilliant one. That's about it. |
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Pleb |
Posted: January 29th, 2024, 11:04am |
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LocationUK Posts444 Posts Per Day 0.15 |
If it was to a good enough standard hell yeah I’d do it!
Especially for shorts. |
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FrankM |
Posted: January 31st, 2024, 3:22pm |
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LocationBetween Chair and Keyboard Posts1447 Posts Per Day 0.61 |
My problem with AI-generated imagery is how they acquired the model's training data. In every case I looked at, it was pretty much stolen copyrighted material scraped from the Internet. A lot of the AI-generated videos still have watermarks from where the basic images originated.
Adobe's Firefly is an exception, though it's not hugely better: folks who had contributed images to Adobe's stock art repository were notified that their images (for which Adobe has an "unlimited" use license) will be used to train Firefly. There were small payments associated with this. While it represents the best treatment of artists, it still falls short of what I'd call fair.
At some point, especially if the New York Times is successful in their lawsuit against OpenAI, the models will be retrained on public domain and properly licensed material. That's the point at which I'd start looking at these tools for film-making, though I know I'm out of the mainstream on this. |
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Zack |
Posted: January 31st, 2024, 3:34pm |
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LocationErlanger, KY Posts4508 Posts Per Day 0.68 |
AI should never be used to create art. Anyone who uses AI to create art is a hack. Simple as that. Just my opinion of course. Take it with a bucket of salt. |
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FrankM |
Posted: January 31st, 2024, 11:56pm |
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LocationBetween Chair and Keyboard Posts1447 Posts Per Day 0.61 |
AI should never be used to create art. Anyone who uses AI to create art is a hack. Simple as that. Just my opinion of course. Take it with a bucket of salt. |
I can see a role for it in cases where everyone expects it to be terrible like movie posters made by screenwriters or sizzle reels made by producers. The copyright issues ought to be resolved before AI makes any video good enough to be confused with anything made by a human. At that point, will these AI sizzle reels or shorts or demos only be used on projects that otherwise wouldn't happen at all, or will they be taking work from actual actors/directors/crew/etc.? |
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LC |
Posted: February 1st, 2024, 2:55am |
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LocationThe Great Southern Land Posts7658 Posts Per Day 1.34 |
I don't see any of those dancing bears reciting lines.
How much is it going to cost. Rhetorical question. No doubt a money spinner and we would have to pay a lot. Maybe for animation.
I want real actors in my film. |
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AnthonyCawood |
Posted: February 1st, 2024, 9:25am |
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LocationUK Posts4327 Posts Per Day 1.13 |
I have a couple of scripts that are intended to be animated, I'm hopeful that eventually I could try and use AI to animate them... unless of course someone buys them in the meantime |
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JEStaats |
Posted: February 1st, 2024, 9:49am |
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LocationTucson, AZ Posts1736 Posts Per Day 0.61 |
AI should never be used to create art. Anyone who uses AI to create art is a hack. Simple as that. Just my opinion of course. Take it with a bucket of salt. |
I (gulp!) agree with Zack , but I do think AI could be used to do storyboards and animated shorts to highlight scenes for promoting a screenplay. I would definitely use it for something of that nature. |
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FrankM |
Posted: February 2nd, 2024, 2:15am |
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LocationBetween Chair and Keyboard Posts1447 Posts Per Day 0.61 |
I (gulp!) agree with Zack , but I do think AI could be used to do storyboards and animated shorts to highlight scenes for promoting a screenplay. I would definitely use it for something of that nature. |
You forgot the bucket of salt Stable Diffusion is certainly not a threat yet. |
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